SWAMP ASH. I can assure you the differences are very real. If I feel like tweaking even more I adjust pickup height and angle! In our experience, Swamp Ash is roughly in the same weight range as Alder. Alder and Swamp ash should be about the same in weight as well. I've read Warmoth's descriptions but it's not helping me to make a decision. Punky Ash weighs about the same as standard alder. What tonal differences should I expect to hear? as well as mounting method, as well as winding method, as well as wire size. You can put a phone on a table and it will have a difference in sound vs in your hand. There have been single piece bodies made from swamp ash but typically they are constructed from two or three pieces glued together. Swamp ash used in most American made basses: Average dried weight 30-33.6 lbs/ft3 (481-538 kg/m3) My Ash basses have have always been heavier than my Alder basses. Most all pickups have some level of microphonics to them as well. It is a fairly light weight wood which makes it easily distinguishable from Hard Ash. Thursday 14th of September 2017. Soft ash is also commonly called ‘swamp ash’. ... For Fender, southern “swamp ash” has always been more common. The body resonates which translates to vibrations in the string that the pickups capture. There have been single piece bodies made from swamp ash but typically they are constructed from two or three pieces glued together. Think of a dramatic example like a hollow body guitar that will feedback easily. Ash is a Lighter color is correct but generally it’s heavier than Alder Nov 27, 2019 #26 I may even use the "tone" knob on one or more of my pedals. Like alder, swamp ash is a classic solid body guitar wood. Ash can be difficult to work with, though; the pores must be filled before finishes are applied, and two swamp ash guitar bodies are more likely to differ from one another tonally than two bodies made of alder, which has a tighter, more consistent grain. You can get Swamp Ash that will make a 2 pound body and Swamp Ash that will make a 7 pound body. That said, alder generally has more mids and is warmer; swamp ash has tight bottom end and more top end presence - almost "scooped" compared to alder. What is Heavier Swamp Ash or Alder? Strings make the signal, but many things affect the way the strings vibrate... That would be wood on wood with no bonding agent. What is Heavier Swamp Ash or Alder? Body wood can have an effect on the pickup. A Strat® body will normally weigh under 5 lbs. Yes, the pickup captures the vibration of the strings but all the other mechanical aspects of the guitar (solid vs. hollow body, wood, nut, bridge, etc.) i guess that Swamp ash should normally be lighter than alder but i think that it is more difficult to get a great piece of lightweight ash than a good piece of alder. Keep in mind 2 bodies of the same type of wood can be quite different. Sometimes it’s lighter than alder. If you impregnate the things with epoxy and make them a solid block that can withstand 60,000 lbs (yes, Hilte makes those epoxies) they tend not to sound as good. A nice compromise is chambered swamp ash, the chambers add some additional resonance that warms the swamp ash. From an aesthetic standpoint, ash usually looks better with translucent finishes. The creamy color and bold grain pattern are more visually appealing than other wood types, like alder. All of this is based on opinion, so results vary. Alder is extremely consistent body to body. The newer Deluxe Fender Stratocasters are usually made with swamp ash bodies, which are slightly heavier. A swamp Ash Tele can be 6.5-8.0 lbs and a Northern Ash one can be 8.0-11.0lbs American Ash is a native North American hardwood found on … Alder Strat bodies can be as low as 3lb 2oz while a low swamp ash body rarely gets below 3lb 8oz, while a heavy alder body rarely goes about 4lb 8oz, a swamp ash body can get to mid 5lbs. If you don't think wood makes a significant difference then build 2 guitars with the same pickups and different wood (I have multiples like that). Alder seems to be in more supply than Swamp ash. There are many kinds of ash trees. Ash vs Alder: The Fender Tone Woods. i guess that Swamp ash should normally be lighter than alder but i think that it is more difficult to get a great piece of lightweight ash than a good piece of alder. What are the opinions on alder for a Tele/Strat body vs. swamp ash? It's amazing what you can do with electric as opposed to acoustic guitars these days. It needs to be dried properly and is a lot rarer so therefore costs a lot more than regular "plain" ash. I have this secret trick I use if my guitar is sounding "too bright" or something - I move these knobs on my amp called "treble" and "bass" around till it sounds better. Fender claims to use swamp ash in many of their guitars in the 1950s. Thursday 14th of September 2017. I was searching the same thing about a year ago and I decided to go with Alder as it seems to have more low-mids making it sound a bit fuller and I'm a low-mid soiled dove! Fender Stats are typically made with either an alder body or a swamp ash body. Why? Punky Ash weighs about the same as standard alder. Alder seems to be in more supply than Swamp ash. Other times, it’s heavier. Part of the fun I've had being obsessed with building "partscaster" guitars lately is getting to explore these differences. Alder body guitars are usually a little bit lighter and are usually found in the older contemporary models from the 1980’s. Swamp ash tonewood comes from trees with roots below the water level in Southern swamps, so the wood is lightweight and porous. The grain is open and the color is creamy. Try to strum a chord, unplugged, and then, when the chord rings, place the body of the guitar against a table or desk, and notice the difference in sound. Sometimes it’s lighter than alder. ... For Fender, southern “swamp ash” has always been more common. Alder is very constant in weight most Alder Teles are 7.5-8.0lbs There are different kinds of Ash swamp and northern which has more weight. In our experience, Swamp Ash is roughly in the same weight range as Alder.